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Norton 2025). Photo by Storyworkz\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em><em><a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/tag\/vermont-conversation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Vermont Conversation with David Goodman<\/a>\u00a0is a VTDigger podcast that features in-depth interviews on local and national issues. Listen below and subscribe for free on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-vermont-conversation-with-david-goodman-podcast\/id1182144448\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5DDHyNnmYe1BPg78T0Lfac?si=4Mt71pDTRee856Wcmx_LPQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a>\u00a0or wherever you get podcasts.<\/em><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/content.blubrry.com\/vermontconversation\/VC_Bill-McKibben_8_27_25_.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/podcasts\/vermont-conversation\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"106\" data-attachment-id=\"523351\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/vermont-conversation-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-scaled.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"2560,901\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"vermont-conversation-logo\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;The Vermont Conversation with David Goodman is now a VTDigger podcast.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-300x106.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-1200x422.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-300x106.jpg\" alt=\"vermont conversation logo\" class=\"wp-image-523351\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-300x106.jpg 300w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-1200x422.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-125x44.jpg 125w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-768x270.jpg 768w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-1536x541.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-2048x721.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Bill McKibben is one of the world\u2019s leading writers and organizers on the issue of climate change. 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This is the fastest energy transition in history \u2014 and it may just help save democracy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThere is one big good thing happening on planet Earth and it&#8217;s so big and so good that it actually has the capacity to help not only with the overwhelming climate crisis, but also with the crisis of inequality and of democracy that we&#8217;re facing now,\u201d McKibben told The Vermont Conversation. \u201cThat one big thing is this sudden surge of clean energy, especially from the sun, that over the last 36 months, has begun to really rewrite what power means on planet Earth.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>McKibben explained that what used to be called \u201calternative energy\u201d is now mainstream. \u201cFour years ago or so we passed some invisible line where it became cheaper to produce power from the sun and the wind than from burning things. And that&#8217;s a completely epochal moment. Most days, California is generating more than 100% of its power for long stretches from renewable energy.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHere&#8217;s a statistic just to stick in your mind that will give you hope, too,\u201d he offered. \u201cA single boatload of solar panels coming from someplace like China will, over the course of its lifetime, produce 500 times as much energy as that same ship filled with coal. We&#8217;re not talking about a slightly better version of what we have now. We&#8217;re talking about a very different world.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>McKibben is currently spearheading&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/sunday.earth\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sun Day<\/a>, which will take place on Sept. 21, 2025. 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