{"id":630585,"date":"2025-09-03T17:16:36","date_gmt":"2025-09-03T21:16:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/?p=630585"},"modified":"2025-09-04T06:30:03","modified_gmt":"2025-09-04T10:30:03","slug":"vermont-conversation-dr-becca-bell-on-the-chaos-at-the-cdc-and-the-uneven-future-of-vaccine-access","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/2025\/09\/03\/vermont-conversation-dr-becca-bell-on-the-chaos-at-the-cdc-and-the-uneven-future-of-vaccine-access\/","title":{"rendered":"Vermont Conversation: Dr. Becca Bell on the chaos at the CDC, and the uneven future of vaccine access"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" data-attachment-id=\"630586\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/2025\/09\/03\/vermont-conversation-dr-becca-bell-on-the-chaos-at-the-cdc-and-the-uneven-future-of-vaccine-access\/becca-bell\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1280,853\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"becca-bell\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Dr. Becca Bell. Photo courtesy of Kristy Dooley&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-300x200.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-1200x800.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-1200x800.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-630586\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-125x83.jpg 125w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-780x520.jpg 780w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-400x267.jpg 400w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell-706x470.jpg 706w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/becca-bell.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Dr. Becca Bell. Photo courtesy of Kristy Dooley<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><em><em><a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/tag\/vermont-conversation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Vermont Conversation with David Goodman<\/a>\u00a0is a VTDigger podcast that features in-depth interviews on local and national issues. Listen below and subscribe for free on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-vermont-conversation-with-david-goodman-podcast\/id1182144448\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5DDHyNnmYe1BPg78T0Lfac?si=4Mt71pDTRee856Wcmx_LPQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a>\u00a0or wherever you get podcasts.<\/em><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-audio\"><audio controls src=\"https:\/\/content.blubrry.com\/vermontconversation\/VC_Becca-Bell_9_3_25_.mp3\"><\/audio><\/figure>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/podcasts\/vermont-conversation\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"106\" data-attachment-id=\"523351\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/vermont-conversation-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-scaled.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"2560,901\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"vermont-conversation-logo\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;The Vermont Conversation with David Goodman is now a VTDigger podcast.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-300x106.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-1200x422.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-300x106.jpg\" alt=\"vermont conversation logo\" class=\"wp-image-523351\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-300x106.jpg 300w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-1200x422.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-125x44.jpg 125w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-768x270.jpg 768w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-1536x541.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/vermont-conversation-logo-2048x721.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>The Centers for Disease Control, the nation\u2019s top public health agency, is in chaos following the firing of its director by President Donald Trump and the resignations of its top leaders last week.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/09\/01\/opinion\/cdc-leaders-kennedy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nine former CDC directors wrote in the New York Times<\/a>\u00a0this week that Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, who spearhead the purge of the CDC and is a longtime leader of the anti-vaccine movement, is \u201cendangering every American\u2019s health.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>States are increasingly spurning Kennedy and taking health matters into their own hands.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/2025\/08\/28\/with-cdc-in-chaos-vermont-joins-regional-coalition-to-navigate-public-health-challenges\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Northeastern states, including Vermont, have formed a regional health coalition<\/a>\u00a0in response to concerns about federal vaccine guidance. The governors of California, Washington and Oregon declared this week said that\u00a0the CDC has become \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/09\/03\/us\/western-health-alliance.html\">a political tool<\/a> that increasingly peddles ideology instead of science \u2026 that will lead to severe health consequences.\u201d\u00a0The three western states are banding together to coordinate their own vaccine policy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Meanwhile, the state of Florida has just announced that it will become&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/health\/2025\/09\/03\/florida-vaccine-mandates-ended\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the first state to do away with all childhood vaccine mandates<\/a>, eliciting strong objections from public health experts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignwide has-light-blue-background-color has-background\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-1c1b4f74 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-primary-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-c0213cbd22f6b8fbb5ef50a67f12df73\" style=\"padding-bottom:0\">READ MORE<\/h5>\n\n\n\t<div\n\t\tclass=\"wp-block-newspack-blocks-homepage-articles  wpnbha show-image image-alignleft ts-4 is-2 is-landscape mobile-stack  has-text-align-left\"\n\t\tstyle=\"\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t<div data-posts data-current-post-id=\"630585\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<article data-post-id=\"630333\"\n\t\tclass=\"tag-donald-trump tag-u-s-centers-for-disease-control-and-prevention tag-vermont-department-of-health category-health type-post post-has-image\"\n\t\t\t\t>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"post-thumbnail\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/2025\/08\/28\/with-cdc-in-chaos-vermont-joins-regional-coalition-to-navigate-public-health-challenges\/\" rel=\"bookmark\" tabindex=\"-1\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"780\" height=\"521\" src=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-1200x801.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-post-image\" alt=\"With CDC in chaos, Vermont joins regional coalition to navigate public health challenges\" data-hero-candidate=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-1200x801.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-125x83.jpg 125w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 782px) 600px, (min-width: 600px) 42.5vw, 90vw\" data-attachment-id=\"530006\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/?attachment_id=530006\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"2000,1335\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;GLENN RUSSELL&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D750&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Mark Podgwaite of the Waterbury Ambulance Service assembles doses of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine at a clinic in Berlin on Saturday, October 2, 2021. Photo by Glenn Russell\\\/VTDigger&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1633170287&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;GLENN RUSSELL&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;50&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;720&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.008&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;vaccination-clinic-3 20210930&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"vaccination-clinic-3 20210930\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;NOTE: As of August 2025, we have been informed Mark Podgwaite has died. Please use generic cutlines. -NW &lt;\/p&gt;\n&lt;p&gt;Mark Podgwaite of the Waterbury Ambulance Service assembles doses of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine at a clinic in Berlin on Saturday, October 2, 2021. Photo by Glenn Russell\/VTDigger&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Mark Podgwaite of the Waterbury Ambulance Service assembles doses of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine at a clinic in Berlin on Saturday, October 2, 2021. Photo by Glenn Russell\/VTDigger&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-300x200.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/vaccination-clinic-3-20210930-1200x801.jpg\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure><!-- .featured-image -->\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"entry-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"entry-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/2025\/08\/28\/with-cdc-in-chaos-vermont-joins-regional-coalition-to-navigate-public-health-challenges\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">With CDC in chaos, Vermont joins regional coalition to navigate public health challenges<\/a><\/h2>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"entry-meta\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"byline\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"author-prefix\">by<\/span> <span class=\"author vcard\"><a class=\"url fn n\" href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/author\/olivia-gieger\/\">Olivia Gieger<\/a><\/span>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><!-- .author-name -->\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<time class=\"entry-date published\" datetime=\"2025-08-28T17:28:52-04:00\">August 28, 2025, 5:28 pm<\/time><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2025-08-29T14:50:29-04:00\">August 29, 2025, 2:50 pm<\/time>\t\t\t\t<\/div><!-- .entry-meta -->\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div><!-- .entry-wrapper -->\n\t<\/article>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Can Vermont trust the health advice coming out of the federal government? What are the leading threats to public health confronting the state and country?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt pains me to say, I don&#8217;t know that you want to trust the CDC,\u201d said&nbsp;Dr. Becca Bell on The Vermont Conversation. Bell is&nbsp;associate professor of pediatrics at the Larner College of Medicine and a pediatric critical care physician at the University of Vermont Children\u2019s Hospital. She is the immediate past president of the Vermont Medical Society and of the Vermont&nbsp;Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics. (Bell noted that she is speaking in her personal capacity, not on behalf of the organizations with which she is affiliated).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bell said that \u201cthe officials that have left the (CDC) have really raised the alarm that \u2026 we shouldn&#8217;t trust what&#8217;s coming out of the CDC in terms of some immunization guidance in particular.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She encouraged families to look to other sources for accurate information, especially&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthychildren.org\/english\/safety-prevention\/immunizations\/pages\/default.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the parenting website of the American Academy of Pediatrics<\/a>, which represents 67,000 pediatricians. She also recommended the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthvermont.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Vermont Department of Health<\/a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.chop.edu\/vaccine-education-center\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Children\u2019s Hospital of Philadelphia<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThen I ask families to talk to their own child&#8217;s doctor, because that&#8217;s going to be a great source as well.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kennedy, the Health and Human Services secretary, announced in May that the CDC would no longer recommend a COVID shot for healthy children. The American Academy of Pediatrics has issued contrary guidance, recommending\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthychildren.org\/English\/news\/Pages\/AAP-releases-its-own-evidence-based-immunization-schedule.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">a COVID shot\u00a0for\u00a0all children under the age of 2<\/a>\u00a0since they are \u201cespecially vulnerable to severe COVID-19.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bell credited Vermont with being proactive \u201cabout how we can keep Vermonters safe,&#8221; but added  that she feels &#8220;really sad&#8221; for the future of child health in the United States. &#8220;I think that we&#8217;re going to see a lot of disparities, not just with access to vaccination but access to health care in general, with the big Medicaid cuts that are coming up as well.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bell warned that Medicaid cuts, which will result in some&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/vtdigger.org\/2025\/07\/03\/vermont-officials-estimate-45000-people-to-lose-health-insurance-under-trumps-tax-bill\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">45,000 Vermonters losing health insurance<\/a>, will fall hardest on children. One third of Medicaid enrollees in Vermont are children.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhat we&#8217;re about to see with that One Big Beautiful Bill Act (is) a huge transfer of resources from low income folks to the highest earners in this country,\u201d said Bell. \u201cAccessible, affordable health care is what kids need to succeed and for families to succeed, and so we are deeply concerned about the future of pediatric health care because our foundation is Medicaid. This is how we care for kids. 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